Tuesday, 30 July 2013

An Interesting Discussion Via Twitter :

Recently I began using "Twitter" and have been in some interesting dialogues with people who claim to be Christians while denying the exclusivity of the Gospel, and denying what the Word of God plainly says regarding women preaching and having authority over men in Church.

One such individual, Quinton Stowell, has been commenting on my blog HERE and I thought it would be helpful to go through his latest comment and compare it to Biblical truth for those who may come across the same psyche.

QS: "I should probably clarify that the Street Pastor initiative welcomes all orthodox Christian denominations, Anglican, Baptist, Catholic, Methodist, Free Church, URC and Pentecostal. Have I missed any?"

DM: "Street Pastors" is a group of people from numerous Churches in many cities around the UK that go to the streets at the weekends and help young people who are intoxicated with alcohol.

They give the young girls flip flops so they do not fall and hurt themselves in their high heels while drunk and also give them bottles of water so that they do not dehydrate.
They do not preach the Gospel and as you can see Quinton has no problem aligning himself with the Roman Catholic Church. The word of God however says this; 

2Co 6:14  Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? 

2Co 6:15  What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? 

Now, you may say that out of that group of denominations there are not only Roman Catholics that are unbelievers, but here is the thing, although there are unbelievers in all those groups, there are some Anglicans, Baptists, Methodists, Free Church, URC's and Pentecostals that actually do preach the Gospel, there are however, no Roman Catholic Churches that do, they have another gospel, a gospel of works, which as Paul said is no gospel at all. Galatians 1:7 

QS: "On the subject of JW's my sister is one. We used to have deep theological discussions/arguments about whose theology was right...... In time we both decided it was best to just love each other and to focus on the important unifying parts of our faiths. Of which there are many."

DM: "JW's" are the Jehovah's Witnesses, I had pointed out to Quinton that merely professing to be a Christian does not make you one and said that the JW's claim to be Christians while denying who Jesus is, they say that He is Michael the Archangel, not God. Quinton has no issue with this, choosing to focus on the similarities we have together instead, but the Word of God says this :

John 8:24 "I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins"

Here Jesus is warning everyone that unless we have a correct understanding of who He is, that He is the Great I AM the Messiah, God manifest in the flesh, then they will die in their sins. This is not good, to die in your sins means no forgiveness, it means suffering for your sins forever and ever in the lake of fire. So if Quinton really loves his sister he will stop pandering to her false religion that will see her lose her soul forever and warn her to flee to Christ- the real One.

QS: "I've only taken an interest in your views after you made that offensive "women... dogs..." quote to my wife."

DM: This was interesting, here Quinton refers to a quote I posted on Twitter to his wife who is a lady vicar and other lady vicars from Charles Spurgeon who said this :

When Boswell told Johnson one day that he had heard a woman preach that morning at a Quaker’s meeting,Johnson replied, “Sir, a woman preaching is like a dog’s walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all.”

I personally find that quote both amusing and powerful, it also shows how far we have degenerated as a nation when men who are supposed to lead the home find a comment like that "offensive." It is past time for the men in this country to man up and start taking back what the enemy has stolen through Womens Lib and the Feminist movement.

QS: You've now said enough for me to realise that you're never going to change your views, but can you at least make some effort to refrain from hurting others and focus on the Fruits of the Spirit.

DM: This final comment from Quinton sums up what is wrong with many who call themselves Christian today in the UK.

"My views" are Biblical, they are not my own, and I will not be changing them anytime soon by the grace of Almighty God, because He does not change, society does not determine truth. 
Ironically, these same people who point us to the "fruits of the Spirit" to imply we are not loving enough seem to completely miss the point that the Spirit is called by Jesus "the Spirit of truth, who leads us into all truth" John 16:13

Quinton and many others, see it as "hurtful" to speak truth, "it is just not nice" is the cry from many, "do not judge" is taken out of context time after time, so they can carry on in their complacency and sin.

But, the Word of God says this:

John 7:24  "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment." 

It really is ok to judge in fact Jesus commands it.


lyn said...

Sounds like Quentin is just as lost as his JW sister. As for women preachers, has he not read 1 Timothy 2:12?
" Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born anew, he cannot see the kingdom of God." Here lies the problem with this man, he has not been regenerated by the mighty power of God. He knows nothing of grace, faith, salvation; all gifts of God given to those He saves {Ephesians 2:8-9}. May God have mercy on Quentin.

dale mcalpine said...

Amen Lyn, thank you Sister.

Susan said...

The same logic that people use to call true and honest preaching "unloving" would say it is unloving to rescue a child from setting themselves on fire by stopping their playing with matches. My husband says "you cannot reason with unreasonable people". True.

Helen said...

It's a real sacred cow, this Street Pastors malarky... I went to the Keswick Convention today (the triumph of hope over experience, this year)and BOTH the morning lecture & main "bible reading" praised street pastors. Afterwards, I bumped into an old friend & her family + vague aquiantance. I said why I was against SPs (condoning sin, no gospel given.) Aquaintance lost temper & stomped off, 2 different total strangers barged into conversation angrily & tore me off a strip for dissing SPs "sharing" gospel/love/whatever.All on premise that the poor things can't help being drunk after a night out, things different from my day.My thesis that it is loving to warn of consequences of drunkenness (1 Cor 6:9), like grabbing child from path of car (cf Susan's comment)caused predictable outrage....

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